A Few Questions About Acid

[emberescent]

I'm somewhat new to the game, and I'm currently leveling an acid-built summoner. I'm really liking it so far, but I have a few questions on rubies.


-Are the Desecration rubies 100% necessary? I currently have r1 Desecration, to get to the Master Summoner rubies, but I'm debating on whether or not to get the other two. As of yet, at level 20, I have yet to be below full mana after killing something, thanks to the two Blood Tap rubies; does this mana regen become less sufficient at higher levels?

-Is Accelerated Metabolism at all worth getting, or is the damage pretty negligible? These rubies are the reason why I'm debating on the Desecration rubies, since I can grab either of them on the way to Concentrated Acid.

-How good is Howl of Death? Is it really only worthwhile for PvP, or is it useful for PvE as well? I know that acid builds aren't as effective for PvP, so I'm planning more for PvE.


For reference, my current build is going to look something like this. I just wanted to ask about a few rubies, since I like to plan ahead and still have time to switch a few around.

I have Hellion simply for solo leveling purposes, and may respec out of it at higher levels if acid summoners are easy enough to solo grind with without one.

[metryinghard]

i won't pvp with that build. 3 pts on hellion is a waste. the 3 pts on siphoning fever is debatable. do u really need the summy res? if you want to pvp with a pve build i suggest getting toxic weakness since most summy dmg comes from tw procs volatile infection popping cherries

[leaguemiriamel]

Would not advise Toxic Weakness on an acid build. But i would suggest increasing the rank of Dark Pact rather than Siphoning Fever.

[metryinghard]

Contrary to the idiot above:

Would not advise Toxic Weakness on an acid build. But i would suggest increasing the rank of Dark Pact rather than Siphoning Fever.

what do you know about acid when you've always rolled vamp? he wants to pvp with acid. vi is summy pvp lol. toxic weakness is teh bomb.
on a serious note, get cata blood r3 if u want pvp as acid. it rocks.
solo backdoor triple kill on def team with dd

[co_cain_e]

Contrary to the idiot above:

Would not advise Toxic Weakness on an acid build. But i would suggest increasing the rank of Dark Pact rather than Siphoning Fever.

what do you know about acid when you've always rolled vamp? he wants to pvp with acid. vi is summy pvp lol. toxic weakness is teh bomb.
on a serious note, get cata blood r3 if u want pvp as acid. it rocks.
solo backdoor triple kill on def team with dd

I love your ignorance. I love it very much.
I've tried acid countless times even before you came to this server.
I've tested out a lot more things than you could possibly do.

Toxic weakness, yes it is awesome. But it isn't as resourceful to use 3 rubies only something that only affects 1 skill, not very economical at all. Plus the proc rate is only at 3% each rank and seeing toxic weakness proc in pvp is quite rare. Even in WH. It could be useful if it's a long duration pvp such as AC.

On another note, acid spec requires quite a lot more rubies compared to vamp spec.

[metryinghard]

Contrary to the idiot above:

Would not advise Toxic Weakness on an acid build. But i would suggest increasing the rank of Dark Pact rather than Siphoning Fever.

what do you know about acid when you've always rolled vamp? he wants to pvp with acid. vi is summy pvp lol. toxic weakness is teh bomb.
on a serious note, get cata blood r3 if u want pvp as acid. it rocks.
solo backdoor triple kill on def team with dd

I love your ignorance. I love it very much.
I've tried acid countless times even before you came to this server.
I've tested out a lot more things than you could possibly do.

Toxic weakness, yes it is awesome. But it isn't as resourceful to use 3 rubies only something that only affects 1 skill, not very economical at all. Plus the proc rate is only at 3% each rank and seeing toxic weakness proc in pvp is quite rare. Even in WH. It could be useful if it's a long duration pvp such as AC.

On another note, acid spec requires quite a lot more rubies compared to vamp spec.

i get it. you failed hard on acid so you decided to stick on a cookie cutter vamp
with the frequency of summy dots, 3% each rank is more than enough.
you dont need it 1v1 as acid. tw becomes a necessity on mass pvp.

[emberescent]

Thanks for the replies so far.

Nope, summoner res isn't a high priority. It's something I'd like to have, but I can do without it. That's what I'd be taking out if Howl of Death is worthwhile.

As for PvP, I don't really care about it, which is why I said I was planning more for PvE.

@ Co_cai_ne - Thanks for the tip on Dark Pact. I'd seen a lot of acid builds on these forums not bother getting above r1, so I got the impression that it wasn't a high priority. I'll swap those around though.

[co_cain_e]

@metryinghard

Hooo so you went healspec coz even the cookiecutter vamp specs can't save you from failing hard. Come back again when an actual guild would accept you besides the Merc's cover bid guild.

@emberescent

Getting Howl of Death in an acid spec isn't advisable.

[dark_knight_kain]

Agreed, in an acid build Howl of Death would just be too large a strain on your blood resources. The DPS of an acid build is fine without HoD, you want to conserve your precious blood supply for Blood Aegis and the occasional DR on yourself since you'll be squishier than a vamp.

As for the summy res, although it is a nice utility skill I would recommend taking it out and using it for something more needed, especially since rubies are so precious. Leave it to the full healers to ress the group. Worse comes to worst you'll have your 20 hour cooldown WM ress for any emergency situations.

[emberescent]

I'll get rid of the res skill in my planned build. I'd seen a lot about HoD on this forum too, so wasn't sure if it was worth getting. Thanks for clearing up the confusion and answering my questions; you guys are so helpful!