im returning and wanna learn!

[drakkinking]

im a returning player (last played before Gipat) and im wondering just how much has the Warden class changed? Last I remember we were more or less a walking joke and a good amount of our rubies where broken but the class was still really fun.

so what im wondering is this:

Have we been buffed in any way?
Are we still stuck with the Goblin/Bear/Lynx/Squirrel pet choices?
Is the class fairly difficult to play end-game? (i like challenges, whole reason i picked warden when i first started lol)
How is our PvP?

and finally

Is 2h melee/pet hybrid build viable or am i just dreaming?

Thank you in advance for taking the time to school me lol, cant wait to see you all in-game

[mirrorheart6]

wardens got nerfed a tad bit (i think, i came back recently also xD) but as far as i know every class either got a bit of a nerf or rework. and yes 2h+pet should be viable, look up some other posts for builds and tips for 2h

[ninim_]

Aww, pre-Gipat wardens <3

First of all, we never were a bad class back then; just that with all the broken rubies, there were very few viable builds, and most people never took the time to learn how to play the class effectively.

With that said~

Wardens were pretty much completely changed; we're totally different from what we were back then. Basically all of our spells were changed in one way or another. Our pets got a HUGE buff; back then the pets were kind of meaningless, now half of your DPS will be done by your pet skills. (You still need to use those skills yourself, but your pet will be the one performing them; we're an actual pet class now).

Have we been buffed in any way?

Yes and no; as I said, we're completely different. We've lost basically all our AoE (Storm used to be the best AoE in the game, now it's useless) but we're really strong at single-target. We're also very good at soloing things as our pet can tank for us.

But yeah, there's no reason to say we're weak anymore. We're not.

Are we still stuck with the Goblin/Bear/Lynx/Squirrel pet choices?

Actually not, you can change your pet to a lizard or a dryad at least I think? I like my lynx so haven't really looked into that >.<

Is the class fairly difficult to play end-game? (i like challenges, whole reason i picked warden when i first started lol)

I wouldn't say we're actually difficult to play now, but being effective IS a little bit complex. Basically, to maximise your DPS you'll need to cause cause a certain debuff on the enemy, then use a certain spell while that debuff is on, that spell causes a new debuff and you must use a new spell while that debuff is on; it's all about understanding how those chains work and using them as effectively as possible.

For more details about that, try checking out my old guide: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=42065 ; it's almost a year old now so not everything is accurate (some spells have been buffed and some nerfed since then) but all the basics of how to play the class are still the same.

I like challenges and complexity too; I think warden is still the best class for you if you enjoy that.

How is our PvP?

Good. We're really squishy (I miss those +30% armor rubies from pre-Gipat ) but can cause a lot of damage and are difficult to handle for a lot of people since they have to choose between targeting us and our pet. Also we still have our old goodies such as Aqua Morte.

[drakkinking]

thanks ninim, and i vaguely remember you, if you were in Lullaby on the tensess server, I was Ukyn, a little kanian warden

[tank_master]

Well, me I decided to play a Orc Shaman. I am totally good for it. I mean I love this guy. And while a Brute or Reaver are quite possible... hmmm... the tankiest things out there. However the Shaman brings a lot of good measure, a bit tinge of a almost Adam's Family... UUUUUUUUUH! This magicness in a brute force - love it. So yeah I am deep fan of this shaman wanna make it as tankiest as possible. I will buff the pet magics. These potions are a bit for a mage build and thus I think that the Orc is the brute force, so the brute magics. I plan to make it something like this: http://www.allodsbase.com/calc#a50x2pj7 ... hsa1hk41s0


Any advice will be appreciated. I hope dear ninim_ you can tell more about playing a Warden.

all the best:
Chavdar

[coolshanth]

The build's got a bunch of problems
1. As ninim said, storm is pretty useless now, with the added fact you havent taken storm rubies, you should drop it out altogether
2. On the pet rubies, you MUST get innate rage and thrill of the hunt rubies, (More pet damage and pet threat) since your pet is is the number one dps. Consider dropping heightened senses, there isnt that much use for it and you need other rubies more
3.If you're getting call of power you should get r2 or nothing, r1 is simply not worth it cuz its only +10% damage and the 70% reduced healing is really painful
4.Hawk's strike is very situational down't find much use unless against mana-based classes...I suggest boar's blow instead
5. Great hunt is a MUST for wardens, no other way, since your pet is of utmost importance =/
6. Chomp uses lots of pet energy, not that viable
7. You have absolutely NO healing spells!! Atleast get r2 renew

There's still more problems that I probably didn't notice, and I dont know melee wardens much so I can't comment on your wolf blow rubies

Also, I fail to understand what role you want to play...pve? pvp? hybrid? caster? aoe?

Lastly, thats a LOT of points, and it's highly unlikely you actually have that many rubies and talent points, unless you buy mage pages, become a judge in pvp, etc.
A good number of points that you would probably have at level 51 would be
64 Talent points and 51 Rubies

[tank_master]

Thanks for the great advice, noble player. Do you think this looks better?
http://www.allodsbase.com/calc#a50x2pg1 ... gse00g4f00

As for your question I want to make it Hybrid Caster/Fighter/Pet Master. I want it to battle with stick, all on the physical side, I want it to have some offensive Lightning spells and good pet spells. So I guess it is Hybrid medley but with more melee touch.