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Re: Warriors Desperately Need a Change

Postby artocys » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:36 am

Scout blink teleports you behind your target so if hes kiting you will still end up behind and if theres just a bit of screen lag then you won't be able to follow with a single hit. Not to mention it cost 30 energy so that leaves 70 energy max to do a combo. Oh and the range is only 20 yards.

And lol at anyone talking about Arcing blow if you manage to fit rank 3 Arcing in your build then you will lack a key skill somewhere else. The difference between Arcing and flawless blow isn't big enough to justify spending 6 talents points in arcing.
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Re: Warriors Desperately Need a Change

Postby artocys » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:40 am

speechpsn wrote:why are u guys crying? pallys should be crying, A war with just the 2x Fear duration on charge is OP as sht. Ex, Orc scout , Charge > racial > Arcing blow.... PEOPLE Die. u guys have remained unflawed for a [I Have a Potty Mouth] long time. A FIX to getting kited would be A reincarn. Pally for a 2nd charge , Psi for TKP. Stack some endurance instead of being an HP whooore and im sure u wont die as fast.


You must be playing incredibly undegeared players. Only utter newbs get killed one shot like that.

Pally charge is great but cost 24 energy with a 2h spear (and more energy with slower 2 handers) but doesn't give any combat advantage so it's once again pretty hard to follow with a combo that ends with agonizing.
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Re: Warriors Desperately Need a Change

Postby rezardi » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:44 pm

Applauds, arto.

I gave up trying to explain things to people, it's usually the scrubs complaining they got 1 shot by [insert geared + shopped warrior here] and because they don't really know how to fight/kite a warrior.

I've destroyed pretty much all of empire in the 47 patch with my lv7 runes and camped their yaskers tower for hours with just a few other people backing me up. BUT, i had the "good" jagged slice, stone idols, telekinetic pull and strange hats on my side. Now i have only have agonizing as a sometimes good pvp skill and my telekinetic pull(which people seem to avoid a lot because of LAG).


Blah blah, whatever. I'm done with my warrior. New patch is too demanding and costly.
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Re: Warriors Desperately Need a Change

Postby aaaawesome » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:40 pm

I'll be ok with them giving warriors more charge skills or better range on some skills if they decrease damage of all skills by 90% ;)
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Re: Warriors Desperately Need a Change

Postby rezardi » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:15 pm

aaaawesome wrote:I'll be ok with them giving warriors more charge skills or better range on some skills if they decrease damage of all skills by 90% ;)


They can set arcing blows damage value to a fixed 1337 for all i care...
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Re: Warriors Desperately Need a Change

Postby citizenkane_ » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:55 am

artocys wrote:Scout blink teleports you behind your target so if hes kiting you will still end up behind and if theres just a bit of screen lag then you won't be able to follow with a single hit. Not to mention it cost 30 energy so that leaves 70 energy max to do a combo. Oh and the range is only 20 yards.

Yes, I know. I'm not getting it for duels actually, I'm getting it for mass PvP, where casters are far away facing you. It will get me out of tough situations, and give me distance to charge back in.

My hope is something like: Blink out > Kd > Agonizing [kill] -> Charge back into the fray. We'll see.

artocys wrote:And lol at anyone talking about Arcing blow if you manage to fit rank 3 Arcing in your build then you will lack a key skill somewhere else. The difference between Arcing and flawless blow isn't big enough to justify spending 6 talents points in arcing.

We've been saying this for months, but people don't listen. Arcing seems really good as you're leveling, but once you hit end game, it's pretty much equal to Flawless Blow, and a waste of 6 talent points.

rezardi wrote:I've destroyed pretty much all of empire in the 47 patch with my lv7 runes and camped their yaskers tower for hours with just a few other people backing me up. BUT, i had the "good" jagged slice, stone idols, telekinetic pull and strange hats on my side. Now i have only have agonizing as a sometimes good pvp skill and my telekinetic pull(which people seem to avoid a lot because of LAG).

The removal of coba items hit warriors harder than any other class :| Why were they removed? I just don't get it. They gave other class' abilities ot every class. A nice equalizer if you ask me.

That said, I still wreck in PvP. :roll: Granted, I have OP runes, top gear, and respec for PvP-specific builds. Hasn't every class kind of gotten nerfed though? Psis, pallys, summoners, and even wardens have been nerfed the last few patches. Mages got a class change, but now they have to choose between pve and pvp specs basically. Scouts got a change, but warriors are totally anti-melee scout. Melee healers got a buff, but we can still kill them. Then you have stupid OP bards QQ.
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Re: Warriors Desperately Need a Change

Postby sijabrik » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:21 am

Yea i fell u. Dev need to look of this if not will more ppl will leave this game once for all.

This game suck unbalanced.
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Re: Warriors Desperately Need a Change

Postby wakisaka » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:28 pm

sijabrik wrote:Yea i fell u. Dev need to look of this if not will more ppl will leave this game once for all.

This game suck unbalanced.


I agree, a pally-esque style revamp is just what the doctor ordered. It will no doubt bring forth balance to the force.

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Re: Warriors Desperately Need a Change

Postby lashenya » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:46 pm

Not talking pvp here, but wouldn't tanking with parry energy ruby and reasonable advantage give you enough energy + CA to skip rapid slash and take arcing blow instead? You have to use Flawless strike before using rapid slash so together isn't that more energy than arcing blow? I'm not a dps spec, but then again i don't use arcing blow much when tanking. Never have really.. ha

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Re: Warriors Desperately Need a Change

Postby artocys » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:06 pm

When 1h tanking, fb + rapid slash helps way more than fb + arcing when it comes to burn your energy. Arcing, even with the ruby, has what a 25 (or 22?) secs cooldown. Not to mention it's shared with flawless blow. It won't help you burn that energy fast enough especially with a 1h spear + a regen aura from warden, scout or bard.

And these CA/energy rubies on parry/dodge looks better on paper than on practice imo.
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