Are new 51s screwed out of rubies?

[silentjob]

So I noticed on nezeb that only like 1 guild or 2 can actully clear stuff for people to get all their rubies in GT ect from the raid wm.

So for everyone else we can't do them? whats the point of playing? I have lvl 7 runes i had to cash shop just so kids would invite me into stuff, and most of the public groups cant kill a thing, and end game guilds don't take outsiders, its a huge pain.

For such a small population, don't you guys think wm should be nerfed a bit jesus really annoying only elitist jerks can finish stuff end game...I felt like i wasted money cash shopin lvl 7/8 runes to only be able to do wh (boring as hell after a while) And scrub a4 groups that wipe constantly.

[hotfizzle]

The game is designed to be fairly difficult, to some it is a relief, while to others it is a source of frustration.

It really doesn't take that much to do GT this patch, as the bosses are mostly still geared for level 47 content (except Sarn.)

Getting a good guild of level 51s in mostly A4 gear and the raid goes pretty well once you figure out how the boss fights go. It's still a nice challenge for guilds who can't get into Dead City and can provide a nice benchmark to see how close you are to that new raid.

[citizenkane_]

I believe you'll see a few more guilds getting the Gorluxor ruby soon The Sarn ruby is harder, but once you're in full epics it really shouldn't be that bad.

Honestly, with a bit of coordination GT bosses 1-5 are easy. Kazul is a very technical fight, but most end-game guilds will have the DPS to complete it.

jesus really annoying only elitist jerks can finish stuff end game...I felt like i wasted money cash shopin lvl 7/8 runes to only be able to do wh (boring as hell after a while) And scrub a4 groups that wipe constantly.

Not all of us are elitist There's nothing stopping many guilds / players from reaching our status. We're merely players who have been playing a long time, with close friends at end game. We run A4 in-guild because we all know each other, and trust in each others' abilities. We're driven to explore and master new content, and we know that within our guild most others feel the same way.

[silentjob]

Thats great and all, but for a small game, new comers who spend money get left out, and I don't see how that makes a mmo grow. Most companies will tweak their mmos based on population, unless gpots goal is to only cater their small end game cash shop community which turns off new comers.

How are new players who hit 51 suppose to start end game, when the player base in the first place are such a holes towards them? Even after people spend real life money to gain at lest lvl 7 runes (which on nezeb according to accen players thats the min runes they would take into a4) and still get shot down for groups.

Thats why we see 95% of wh games with afkers because they have no choice really. Empire side at least I noticed alot of jerks, a holes and people who are "entitled" be so horrid to new 51s in lvl 7/8 runes who just want to start end game.

What would be their next step into trying to do a4??? it may be fun to friends of those in end game guilds and such, but to pure new players it is a huge pain/

Its more of a playerbase issue then the game being "hard" which it really is not hard at all, its just the players are such a holes and make it hard on the rest of us.

Mabey its just the usa players that are like this.

[hotfizzle]

Maybe your goal shouldn't be to get into Ascendancy then. Try aiming for another end game guild that is working its way up through end game an is willing to work with the new 51s who weren't previously geared.

Even if the devs made the game easier, those further ahead would just get further ahead and your chance of joining them would be just as bad if not worse.

Maybe it's just a matter of perspective. You can't jump steps in Allods endgame, not at all.

[silentjob]

Maybe your goal shouldn't be to get into Ascendancy then. Try aiming for another end game guild that is working its way up through end game an is willing to work with the new 51s who weren't previously geared.

Even if the devs made the game easier, those further ahead would just get further ahead and your chance of joining them would be just as bad if not worse.

Maybe it's just a matter of perspective. You can't jump steps in Allods endgame, not at all.

I mean all end game guilds on nezeb in general, rest can't clear anything. the ones who can clear stuff are very rude, so again, we are screwed because of how people are jerks.

Other guilds don't do end game or can't clear anything. I searched, ones who can really want you to have lvl 10 runes epics ect thats pretty unreal.

I think cash shoping lvl 7/8 runes is a large amount of money just to do end game to start with, then with geting that goal, still unable to do anything because of how rude and jerk the playerbase is.

Would be shame to move regions and start all over just because usa end game players wont allow new end game players raid. Seems like devs need to tweak servers/content based on population. Its really frustrated, several other players on nezeb feel the the same way and also having a hard time.

Note these are players with lvl 7-8 runes and cradle rep gear and are a4 ready. Just we are not even giving a chance. Even tried sacred but they are not to active in a4.

And I come from games where end game is alot harder then allods with no cash shop. What do you mean skip steps??? I completed every step and stuck doing wh with cradle rep gear and lvl 7/8 runes because the lack of end game guilds, the ones who are active are full or very very rude/jerk like they are the only ones in this game.

How is a mmo suppose to grow a large end game community with that type of playerbase? Sorry if seem to come off angry its just frustrated and nothing left to do in game but wh or farm gold.

[hotfizzle]

So you're saying that Ascendancy, Redemption, Sacred, and Disturbed are ALL jerks that aren't willing to accept your application and help you raid?

I don't know about that man. You calling everyone jerks is a generalization, and definitely not true. Indicates to me that either one guild wronged you so you think they all suck, OR the problem lies with you somehow and none of those guilds want you.

I don't know your in-game name so I can't say for sure.

[tonguefoot]

Maybe your goal shouldn't be to get into Ascendancy then. Try aiming for another end game guild that is working its way up through end game an is willing to work with the new 51s who weren't previously geared.

Even if the devs made the game easier, those further ahead would just get further ahead and your chance of joining them would be just as bad if not worse.

Maybe it's just a matter of perspective. You can't jump steps in Allods endgame, not at all.

I mean all end game guilds on nezeb in general, rest can't clear anything. the ones who can clear stuff are very rude, so again, we are screwed because of how people are jerks.

Other guilds don't do end game or can't clear anything. I searched, ones who can really want you to have lvl 10 runes epics ect thats pretty unreal.

I think cash shoping lvl 7/8 runes is a large amount of money just to do end game to start with, then with geting that goal, still unable to do anything because of how rude and jerk the playerbase is.

Would be shame to move regions and start all over just because usa end game players wont allow new end game players raid. Seems like devs need to tweak servers/content based on population. Its really frustrated, several other players on nezeb feel the the same way and also having a hard time.

Note these are players with lvl 7-8 runes and cradle rep gear and are a4 ready. Just we are not even giving a chance. Even tried sacred but they are not to active in a4.

And I come from games where end game is alot harder then allods with no cash shop. What do you mean skip steps??? I completed every step and stuck doing wh with cradle rep gear and lvl 7/8 runes because the lack of end game guilds, the ones who are active are full or very very rude/jerk like they are the only ones in this game.

How is a mmo suppose to grow a large end game community with that type of playerbase? Sorry if seem to come off angry its just frustrated and nothing left to do in game but wh or farm gold.

have u applied to sacred.....? or are u just waiting for someone to randomly invite u???? we are currently open to people lvl 45 plus, we are welling to help, but we are not willing to carry u, theres a big difference, dont expect any endgame guild to carry you through a4/raids and endgame, if ur not willing to put the effort and time in, Im under lvl 7 runes, i get to go a4/ac/raids and stuff all the time.

And yes, u need to have gear to do a4, which means u either reached a2/a3 before patch and got decent gear, or u have to grind some wh, no one wants a4 groups with everyone at 20-30k dps or else you would never clear anything. So i see you have 2 options, u can continue to call everyone jerks and alianate yourself, as this is a smaller community and your actions do have effects, or you can buckle down and do some work and u know apply to one of the endgame guilds.

[eletee]

The one thing I don't get is why did silentdecay make a new forum account just for this thread. Did a bad job covering your tracks lol.
Calling everyone "elitist jerks" isn't really going to help you with getting into a guild..... this is your problem, no?

Most people will try to only get people from their guild first when making parties, then they'll search for people they have partied with before and know that they are good. Last option is to get other people "pugs". Doing the latter is often a risk and often 'never' done for tanks or healers.

Then there are complete pug parties which have a very low success rate.

Things in allods aren't just given out like in other mmo's, you really need to work for it. In other words you need to contribute to success to have it.

GT as an example, ever since the 2.0 patch alot of people started working really hard to get geared up to clear it in the 45 version. It took 11 months of hardwork. Yet you want it given to you instantly? give me a break.

[sdebeli32]

GT is still a b**** to clear, regardless of gear/runes. What it takes is experience, hard work and good strategy, as well as a guild that can work together. The reason that there are no pugs and the like for GT and as of lately Dead City is because it's difficult stuff. Really, really difficult stuff.

In all honestly, endgame isn't level 51. Level 51 players can be divided into two rough groups, going at 2/3 for the 51 newcomers and 1/3 for the veterans. This is a rough estimate, so don't chew me over for it.
The 2/3 of the players can't match the other 1/3 for a very simple reason. They don't know what they're doing, and are going along as it takes them. The veterans have everything planned out since day one of the patch, and are heading into it well geared, well runed and well informed. That is the real hurdle most new players can't pass.
I've seen a lot of players complain how some people get all the good stuff while they're left behind. Yeah, they do, because they've put in every possible effort to get there. They learned their classes, know the people, geared up, specced properly, planned ahead of time, and when it finally arrived, made sure they were ready for it.

If you're actually expecting to be able to dive right among the veterans who have been playing for months and match them after several weeks of playing... well. Nuff said.