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Re: Paladin or warrior question

Postby figuren » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:17 am

1 question, did you take r3 condemnation + all rubies? My purifying is usually above Condemnation and I barely use it.
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Re: Paladin or warrior question

Postby gonionknight » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:29 am

Condemnation hits more targets than Purifying Strike from Wrath.
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Re: Paladin or warrior question

Postby figuren » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:29 am

gonionknight wrote:Condemnation hits more targets than Purifying Strike from Wrath.

I'm aware of that, maybe I just need to pull more mobs on every pull... :?
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Re: Paladin or warrior question

Postby gonionknight » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:29 pm

Well, the skeletons pull is 5 mobs per pull.

5x Condemnation constantly being refreshed vs a single melee attack. I would say 3 full Condemnations is equivalent to one melee attack as a tank, no?
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Re: Paladin or warrior question

Postby shalew » Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:09 pm

I dont get what you guys are on about they can hold aoe aggro much better than us they can tank bosses better that us
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Re: Paladin or warrior question

Postby shalew » Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:17 pm

ministermuz wrote:
shalew wrote:Warrior out tank us my miles


Nope


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Re: Paladin or warrior question

Postby eletee » Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:30 pm

That allod has alot of aoe pulls, had shadows and skeletons iirc. Generally most pulls are aoe though...so lots of condemn. Condemn is maxed (20-30k a tick on crit) and usually regardless of the allod it'll generate more dps then ps. Considering it is 2 ticks for every ps, assuming you are hitting it straight off cd, it'll sometimes does more in single target because condemn has higher crit chance.
Also have to consider my wand is much better then my weapon. Epic l4 vs legend l3.
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Re: Paladin or warrior question

Postby ministermuz » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:38 pm

shalew wrote:
ministermuz wrote:
shalew wrote:Warrior out tank us my miles


Nope


Are you anzactrooper? :P


I'm Muzza, you would think the forum name might be a hint, but surprisingly few people make the link 8-)

Warriors can hold aoe agro more easily than we can, I don't think I've seen a single person dispute that. The fact is we can still do it, provided you have the proper build/skill/gear/team required to make things work.

Warriors tanking single-target better than us? No. Please tell me your definition of tanking isn't "holding agro while doing as much dps as possible"
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Re: Paladin or warrior question

Postby shalew » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:02 pm

ministermuz wrote:I'm Muzza, you would think the forum name might be a hint, but surprisingly few people make the link 8-)

Warriors can hold aoe agro more easily than we can, I don't think I've seen a single person dispute that. The fact is we can still do it, provided you have the proper build/skill/gear/team required to make things work.

Warriors tanking single-target better than us? No. Please tell me your definition of tanking isn't "holding agro while doing as much dps as possible"


Well what I mean is Warriors can tank the mobs in gt like the pred that spwans millions of other little demon better than us. There is no way I could see a pally hold all of those demons.

An other example of this is in Solitary fortress at the snake boss we can not hold aggro there when he spwans all those snakes

When warriors tank single targets they do greater dps then us when we tank single targets so they can tank and provide more dps to the raid/party at the same time also warrior full tanks can be as tanky as us while doing greater dps than ours. Like the trolls for Strina warrior tanks are more prefered..
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Re: Paladin or warrior question

Postby girsy » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:20 am

shalew wrote:
ministermuz wrote:I'm Muzza, you would think the forum name might be a hint, but surprisingly few people make the link 8-)

Warriors can hold aoe agro more easily than we can, I don't think I've seen a single person dispute that. The fact is we can still do it, provided you have the proper build/skill/gear/team required to make things work.

Warriors tanking single-target better than us? No. Please tell me your definition of tanking isn't "holding agro while doing as much dps as possible"


Well what I mean is Warriors can tank the mobs in gt like the pred that spwans millions of other little demon better than us. There is no way I could see a pally hold all of those demons.

An other example of this is in Solitary fortress at the snake boss we can not hold aggro there when he spwans all those snakes

When warriors tank single targets they do greater dps then us when we tank single targets so they can tank and provide more dps to the raid/party at the same time also warrior full tanks can be as tanky as us while doing greater dps than ours. Like the trolls for Strina warrior tanks are more prefered..


I can't understand what you said, but by the QQ in this thread people are saying paladins can't hold agro as well as warriors. False

AOE is arguable depending on who is tanking. 80k+ dps using 1h and shield is supposed to lose agro against who exactly? Sure some people do more, some people do less.
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