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which stat boosts parry

Postby jumlin » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:14 am

I forget which stat boosts parry. Is it Agility?
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Re: which stat boosts parry

Postby hotfizzle » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:04 am

I would assume so. Parry is an odd skill in Allods though, and doesn't seem to happen nearly as much as block/dodge do.
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Re: which stat boosts parry

Postby mushchi01 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:49 am

acctually, when i was melee i used to parry alot more than dodge. i wish they put the block and the parry chance somewhere in the stats or in the skill book.
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Re: which stat boosts parry

Postby rotcjames » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:16 pm

Parry chance is actually a ruby for scouts. The first ruby gives us the parry ability and each one after that increases the chance to parry. Not sure of other classes.
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Re: which stat boosts parry

Postby citizenkane_ » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:32 pm

Your Agility stat determined your chance to dodge, block, and parry.

When you get attacked it works something like this:
Call the percent listed next to your agility stat "X"
  • You have X chance to dodge 100% of the damage
  • If you fail to dodge, you then have 2X chance to block 50% of the damage. (blocks only occur if you have a shield equipped)
  • If you fail to block, you have 4X chance to parry 25% of the damage.
Edit: this is fail. It's ...correct enough to give you an idea of how thigns work, but my numbers are all wrong. My bad.
Edit Edit: My original numbers were wrong, but the concept still stands... I think?



As of the 3.0 patch, players are now able to prevent magic damage using agility. As far as I know, nobody has thoroughly tested this yet. I can't say specifically how it works.

It should also be noted that your armor will mitigate the listed percentage of damage that makes it through your blocks / parries.

If I'm wrong about any of that, please call me out. It's all a bit complex, and it's been a while since I tested it thoroughly.
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Re: which stat boosts parry

Postby hotfizzle » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:08 pm

citizenkane_ wrote:Your Agility stat determined your chance to dodge, block, and parry.

When you get attacked it works something like this:
Call the percent listed next to your agility stat "X"
  • You have X chance to dodge 100% of the damage
  • If you fail to dodge, you then have 2X chance to block 50% of the damage. (blocks only occur if you have a shield equipped)
  • If you fail to block, you have 4X chance to parry 25% of the damage.



Um.... I might be wrong, but I thought block was 75% damage reduction and parry was 50%. :|
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Re: which stat boosts parry

Postby lexelas » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:17 pm

citizenkane_ wrote:Your Agility stat determined your chance to dodge, block, and parry.

When you get attacked it works something like this:
Call the percent listed next to your agility stat "X"
  • You have X chance to dodge 100% of the damage
  • If you fail to dodge, you then have 2X chance to block 50% of the damage. (blocks only occur if you have a shield equipped)
  • If you fail to block, you have 4X chance to parry 25% of the damage.

If I'm wrong about any of that, please call me out. It's all a bit complex, and it's been a while since I tested it thoroughly.


Where did you get that 2x / 4x modifiers from ? Anatomy self defence (mod) stats suggest your chance to block/dodge/parry is roughly the same.
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Re: which stat boosts parry

Postby citizenkane_ » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:21 pm

lexelas wrote:Where did you get that 2x / 4x modifiers from ? Anatomy self defence (mod) stats suggest your chance to block/dodge/parry is roughly the same.

ASD is rather misleading. The amount of damage prevented by all 3 is roughly the same ( 1x1, 2x0.5, 4x0.25 ), but in my experience I always parry more than I block and block more than I dodge I'm not sure anymore :(

hotfizzle wrote:Um.... I might be wrong, but I thought block was 75% damage reduction and parry was 50%. :|

Edit: You are absolutely correct, and I was wrong. Disregard my 1st post I guess... agi-math is all wrong
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Re: which stat boosts parry

Postby eletee » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:34 pm

The awkward moment when you accidently backspace a wall of text :(

Anyway I was going to say only dodge is fixed at 100% damage reduction, parry and block range from 100% to 5 or 10%. I can only assume the order they are applied is how kane stated (but his modifiers are bogus).

Plus I was going to go a bit more indepth /sigh
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Re: which stat boosts parry

Postby citizenkane_ » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:37 pm

Hotfizzle's right, dodge mitigates 100% of the damage, block 75%, and parry 50%.

The checks occur in the order dodge > block > parry.

The chance of each occuring is what I'm uncertain of.

eletee wrote:The awkward moment when you accidently backspace a wall of text :(

Pretty much :(
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