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Re: Are bards Strong in PVP

Postby gonionknight » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:55 am

Indubitably, everything into luck until you're able to do the calculations to drop luck.
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Re: Are bards Strong in PVP

Postby wotaad » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:56 am

gonionknight wrote:Indubitably, everything into luck until you're able to do the calculations to drop luck.


uhm ... u trolling me?
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Re: Are bards Strong in PVP

Postby gonionknight » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:14 am

wotaad wrote:
gonionknight wrote:Indubitably, everything into luck until you're able to do the calculations to drop luck.


uhm ... u trolling me?


Nope.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=41793

My off-hand is a calculator.

Crit rate is the biggest DPS increase until you reach the desired crit rate. After that, it's returns are nil, and you build up your accuracy/anti-resist stats until those are desired and rebalance crit rate, then everything else into pure damage stat.
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Re: Are bards Strong in PVP

Postby wotaad » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:29 am

gonionknight wrote:
wotaad wrote:
gonionknight wrote:Indubitably, everything into luck until you're able to do the calculations to drop luck.


uhm ... u trolling me?


Nope.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=41793

My off-hand is a calculator.

Crit rate is the biggest DPS increase until you reach the desired crit rate. After that, it's returns are nil, and you build up your accuracy/anti-resist stats until those are desired and rebalance crit rate, then everything else into pure damage stat.


aint doging a problem if people dodge ur attacks
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Re: Are bards Strong in PVP

Postby therealskypirate » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:35 am

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I have killed over a thousand ligs

Unknown to damage, nor known to other spells

Have withstood whispers to kill many players

Yet, those devs will never nerf anything

So as I spam, Unlimited Disharmony Works


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Re: Are bards Strong in PVP

Postby gonionknight » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:55 am

wotaad wrote:
aint doging a problem if people dodge ur attacks


You can believe me and the fact that I've probably spent 100 hours doing math and programming on this game alone, or you can go and think I'm an idiot. Up to you.

Haven't bought a Water of Life in a year, and I only drink Luck Elixirs if I want to smack extra face in astral or a raid. Otherwise, self-sufficient on a single potion to reach the desired combat effectiveness.
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Re: Are bards Strong in PVP

Postby wotaad » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:14 am

gonionknight wrote:
wotaad wrote:
aint doging a problem if people dodge ur attacks


You can believe me and the fact that I've probably spent 100 hours doing math and programming on this game alone, or you can go and think I'm an idiot. Up to you.

Haven't bought a Water of Life in a year, and I only drink Luck Elixirs if I want to smack extra face in astral or a raid. Otherwise, self-sufficient on a single potion to reach the desired combat effectiveness.


im new so you can buy potions to boost other stats?
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Re: Are bards Strong in PVP

Postby gonionknight » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:41 am

wotaad wrote:
gonionknight wrote:
wotaad wrote:
aint doging a problem if people dodge ur attacks


You can believe me and the fact that I've probably spent 100 hours doing math and programming on this game alone, or you can go and think I'm an idiot. Up to you.

Haven't bought a Water of Life in a year, and I only drink Luck Elixirs if I want to smack extra face in astral or a raid. Otherwise, self-sufficient on a single potion to reach the desired combat effectiveness.


im new so you can buy potions to boost other stats?


Elixirs are from the cash shop and go for any stat. They scale based on level, and are about 130 points at endgame. They are quite tasty, but cost $1.25 for 5 of them, so you should only use them if you need the extra push. In most cases, players with Luck-balanced stats can just drink a stat of their choice, such as Strength for more DPS or Conviction for more crowd control. Those that rely on Luck have their other stats balanced, but end up relying on these to be "combat-effective" because they don't reach the recommended level without them. In other words, they become "dependent on these" and have to spend a lot of gold or gpotatoes to stay level. A single elixir lasts 2 hours.

There's also free Cash Potions that you get that are similar, but only have half the stats and only come in damage-based stats depending on whether you are a caster or a melee. These take the same spots as Elixirs but are free, and last for 4 hours.

Alchemy Potions are from alchemists and go for most stats. They cost more to make for endgame players, and add 60 points for the best quality. These cost about 40-50 gold for 20, each lasting half an hour at base, but go up in time if you're in a guild with a regalia, to around 50 minutes for the average end-game guild, I think. Since there is no recipe for the spell/physical armor penetration, you have to deal with being only able to adjust for 3 stats.
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Re: Are bards Strong in PVP

Postby wotaad » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:51 am

Elixir last 4 hours aswell?

the ones u buy boost 120 in 1 stat for how long
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Re: Are bards Strong in PVP

Postby gonionknight » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:55 am

wotaad wrote:Elixir last 4 hours aswell?

the ones u buy boost 120 in 1 stat for how long


2 hours. They are about 120 at endgame, though I don't have the numbers off the top of my head, because I do believe they still go by the 20% of your stat method.
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