The Battlements - "Title of Greatness" - Feb. 25, 2012

[metryinghard]

does it share with reincs?

[10minuteman]

does it share with reincs?

Of course...
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not

[metryinghard]

does it share with reincs?

Of course...
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not

/sad

[saintviciouz]

Got a VoD

[metryinghard]

vod cant give u this

∙ The Title of "Great" before your class name when inspected or moused over.
∙ An ornate "Elite" ring around your character picture when targeted.
∙ 1 Extra Ruby, 1 Extra Talent Point.
∙ Dual Spec on Talent Tree and Grids.
∙ The ability to create your own personal Allod.
∙ Graphical qualities to your GUI and /emotes.
∙ Five times guild prestige earned from the quest "Pledge of Eulogy".

nice try

[dietrichk]

Hey, thanks for the nice and informative article. The WM, however, starts with Aidenus (or Yasker) himself - first you get that letter in the mail asking you to see the Great Mage ASAP; he then redirects you to Barbara of Siveria. It's only after talking to him that Barbara will have a quest available for you.

No doubt, dual spec is the main reward here - it's even better than the most OP prize ever, i. e. VoD, since you can switch builds even inside an instance, as opposed to having to go all the way back to your faction's capital. Extra ruby and talent point won't make so much difference at this point - personal allod will just be another reason to spend gpots I'm afraid, much like personalizing your own ship. (Thing about extra ruby btw that people sometimes overlook is all the extra single ones you can get, together. It's one (or two) from GT, one from Gemstones quest, plus one from 3rd Mage Page... and another here: 4 or 5 extra rubies certainly make a lot of difference in any build.)

I initially thought Emblems would be shared with incarnations but since Layer 2 gems were not, it makes sense the emblems rewarded from them are not. That's the funny sad news: spending ~24k gold to turn in the gems, plus some gold to buy the last few ones, plus all the teleport charges... up to 30k, if not more in some cases. All that for 60 emblems. To turn in each of them, now, it costs 100g... 6k gold. 4 to 5 times cheaper. And because you can turn in a maximum of 20 per week, that'll be a 3 weeks', a month's delay. Not really meaningful. Therefore, the "worthwhile reward" for completing the Layer 2 gems quest now feels rather like a rip-off. No sense of achievement whatsoever. Anyone can reach lvl 51 now with the crappiest pieces of gear. Try finishing a L2 allod with Kirah rep and greens from IoR. Hard times - but good times, too. I suppose it was truly the hardest quest ever in this game? except maybe for the GT ones. Finishing 200+ allods is certainly harder than doing some or even a lot of pvp or just the Tka-Rik trials for emblems, not to mention turning in amalgam/realgar. (Just getting a decent astral party at times was hard enough to begin with.) I'd rather have another soldier/veteran icon kind of thing on my avatar saying I completed that quest instead of having spent so much more gold for something that will soon be completely forgotten, if it isn't already. Just something more "worthwhile" - give the players who completed lengthy and difficult quests some really useful reward (CCs, crystals, whatever) or even just a token stating they achieved that, a token that will stay there forever. Don't steal thousands of gold from the most dedicated and committed players, lol. *sigh*

[slumberil]

Don't steal thousands of gold from the most dedicated and committed players, lol. *sigh*

I don't really see the most dedicated and committed QQing that they were ripped off on this. They reached level 47/A3 MONTHS ahead of everyone else and established another tier of gameplay from powerful gear and astral experience.

You don't get that for free. It has to cost something. You can't take a Ferrari off the lot, drive the hell out of it for months and expect a full refund when you bring it back.

[dietrichk]

uh... I wasn't "QQing" - I was making a suggestion concerning lengthy quests and permanent rewards, which, as I said, don't even have to be ''rewards''. I didn't ask for a Ferrari either - my point was charging the players a large amount of gold for something that, come next patch (just as it did), will have no lasting or practical consequences whatsoever, is not rewarding as a strictly gaming experience. From your analogy it would follow that players now, not having to complete that quest, would simply get a free Ferrari? or skip it and get a Porsche? (lol) which makes more (less) sense? sigh

[slumberil]

uh... I wasn't "QQing" - I was making a suggestion concerning lengthy quests and permanent rewards, which, as I said, don't even have to be ''rewards''. I didn't ask for a Ferrari either - my point was charging the players a large amount of gold for something that, come next patch (just as it did), will have no lasting or practical consequences whatsoever, is not rewarding as a strictly gaming experience. From your analogy it would follow that players now, not having to complete that quest, would simply get a free Ferrari? or skip it and get a Porsche? (lol) which makes more (less) sense? sigh

You completely misinterpreted my post. Allow me to clarify:

In my analogy, I reference the absurdity of expecting a full refund after spending months enjoying the hell out of an expensive, exotic, sports car. The driver can't get all of his money back because the car is no longer brand new. Period.

I did not state you were QQing.

I did not state you wanted a Ferrari.

I simply stated that no one is really QQing because they understand that the luxury they had with Level 47/Astral Layer 3 months and months ahead of everyone who waited until 3.0 has to cost them something.

[kahruvel]

Hey, thanks for the nice and informative article. The WM, however, starts with Aidenus (or Yasker) himself - first you get that letter in the mail asking you to see the Great Mage ASAP; he then redirects you to Barbara of Siveria. It's only after talking to him that Barbara will have a quest available for you.

Thank you for your clarification! I forgot this bit because I was lost in the flurry of quest turn-ins, lol. I'll adjust the article to match.

I'm currently talking with the GM team to get some more information about Title of Greatness, particularly in regards to whether it is shared with reincarnations or not. The information will be added here as soon as I get the word.

I'm also trying to research the process of Allod ownership, but the information is very difficult to obtain because I don't think any Allods RU players have done it yet either. So we're on equal footing in the same jungle, so to speak.