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Gpotato, why are you making the same mistakes as Nival?

Postby asgenar » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:05 pm

First of all, this is not going to be a thread directed offensively at gpotato, but I will be voicing my opinion on why this patch will kill the player population in so many ways.

First of all, the russian server population is usually at 20% average for each server now. The reason why? The players are very disappointed with how the game has become. There are many factors that have pushed players to their limits. I don't really want to delve into the pvp issue right now because of the fact that there might be separate servers for PvP/PvE. The real matters that I want to delve into is how the cash shop is very slowly, but obviously slinking into everyday gaming life. With each death at lvl 40 costing 3.5g each time, it makes the game a lot more annoying. The mobs have huge aggro radius, chase you for a long range, and most of the time you have to run through tons of mobs to get to places. Now, one can no longer die to tele fast back to town without suffering a high fee. Another thing, with a fee this high, who is going to want to pvp? Some classes die more quickly than others when it comes to pvp and this flat rate charge for each death is unfair for certain classes. Another thing, I don't really mind the cash shop rubies, but it does mean lower lvls can pre-buy their rubies from cash shop "gambling" and be a twink in a sense. Heroic instances, making it farmable only once a day, and at the same time making chests only once a day makes buying cash shop chests a lot more attractive to those that are willing to put down rl money. Why bother wasting so many days doing instances when one can just buy cash shop chests? The perfumes. Before they only added a mild hp/mp bonus that I didn't really mind. However, they have been patched to now add more effects, and because of that, it will become the standard in pvp. Everyone will be running around with perfumes to pvp, as well as the cash shop pots. Players will strive to hit max potential, so they will end up using those pots in the cash shop. Astral ships isn't that great or fun of an experience that people will be looking forward to every day. It takes an immense out of time, as well as a lot of money, and requires your guild members to be on, a satisfactory number. No more solo pvp fun, or group pvp fun on lands. Now, I don't really know about war banners, but if they are the same as they were before the patch where they disappeared on death and that they disappeared when you left the zone, that will be so gay.

There is already a poll on the ru forums where over 1000 people have voted against the fear of death debuff, and I haven't rechecked that thread in over two weeks. If there is a pvp fight, and an emeny kills your respective servant of light, you will be [I Have a Potty Mouth] for pvp, unless of course, you're a cash shopper.. or you run all the way to another town's servant of life. In instances, there will be times where the cleric will die, or where you have to rez through purgatory because of the placement of the death. Now, if you are doing a heroic adventure quest, you can not leave the instance because you only get ported there once a day. So that means you have to use cash shop and use your perfume to remove the debuff. I know there is a daily perfume quest, but of course, that only lasts for so long, and is lvl 40 requirement.

At the rate where this game is heading, I can see why the ru server population is so low and many of them are moving to EU/Na beta in hopes that our gms have the power to make things different. I too hope so too, but in the end, I don't really have high expectations. Thank you for listening to my rant. There is more that I want to say, but I can't think of it right now, so I'll come back and edit later.
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Re: Gpotato, why are you making the same mistakes as Nival?

Postby kusodog » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:29 pm

Totally true. The fear of death will probably kill off non-cash users for PvP. Having such a LONG LASTING and HUGE debuff for a game where a few points in stats, maybe even a single point, make such a huge difference is going to break it.

Honestly, people play games to have FUN. Fun comes in forms of PvP, of seeing your player progress. Fun does NOT come in forms of waiting for your character to ungimp because you tried to have fun through PvP, or spending money to support yourself.

I'm sure you devs already know exactly what this buff will do: make players fear death. And if I'm afraid to die, I will either not go to contested lands, or turn my flag off so I am untouchable. No one will be able to get point off me through PvP. I'm sure that that's what most people will think, and when we progress to higher levels and seek some PvP action to relieve the boredom grind, guess what? All you will see is a bunch of untouchable people, and few targets.

As for farming flag removing items...well, it's already enough to work for a decent set of gear, now we have to farm items to have at least a bit of fun..?
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Re: Gpotato, why are you making the same mistakes as Nival?

Postby chesnok87 » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:51 pm

2 asgenar: Man you'r totally true... I'm sight under you'r post...
You tell by my word again, and every what you tell is correctly [I Have a Potty Mouth] true!!!
You have friend... If what whisper :))

Im also want to add 1 thing... Dear administration and Gpotato... If YOU doing now this game prove it... Delete this crazy :? patch and make new more better than that... Done it and show us... We want to play in great server. And when you do it you have non 1k person who invite into this game...

This topic need became in high thats everyone see it...
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Re: Gpotato, why are you making the same mistakes as Nival?

Postby aceh1gh » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:04 pm

I'm all for spending money on the cash shop, as you're being provided a service and you pay for that service. But from all the examples you've given it sounds like I'd have to spending dollars a day on perfumes.

Edit: Just noticed a new description on the perfumes: Provides resistance to icy grave and hypnosis spells. Reduces their duration by 70% and increases the intervals between damage ticks by 20s.

And it auto renews them so you don't even notice that they're being used up.
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Re: Gpotato, why are you making the same mistakes as Nival?

Postby asgenar » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:11 pm

btw, lvl 40 perfume daily that takes 30+ min or so to do gives only 1 perfume. gg

using perfume will prevent you from getting fear of death debuff and make you keep the pots you used upon death. Like I said, perfumes are now a standard in every day allods life. Pretty much mandatory.
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Re: Gpotato, why are you making the same mistakes as Nival?

Postby shadowbaneallods » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:50 pm

^QFT^


Please don't go the rout Rage went Allods, and learn from ROM while your at it.
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Re: Gpotato, why are you making the same mistakes as Nival?

Postby deity_ » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:57 pm

All these changes have pretty much ruined the game. I know I won't be spending any money on this game anymore if they are going to try force you to. This game looks pretty boring now.
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Re: Gpotato, why are you making the same mistakes as Nival?

Postby sahlamuhla » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:01 pm

deity_ wrote:All these changes have pretty much ruined the game. I know I won't be spending any money on this game anymore if they are going to try force you to. This game looks pretty boring now.

I know right? and I was working on my epic signature :'( I probably wont have to bother anymore but I ll stick and see what happens till obt.
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Re: Gpotato, why are you making the same mistakes as Nival?

Postby shadowbaneallods » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:12 pm

I wrote up a piece on the Vindica site on the home page www.Vindica-Guild.com

I put heart into it.....

Why Allods..... why.........................
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Re: Gpotato, why are you making the same mistakes as Nival?

Postby sahlamuhla » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:21 pm

shadowbaneallods wrote:I wrote up a piece on the Vindica site on the home page http://www.Vindica-Guild.com

I put heart into it.....

Why Allods..... why.........................

I feel ya bro but I wouldnt hesitate if I were ya to write that I d wait till obt to see if they have pvp servers. Right next to the name of the server there is a tab by the name of "type" soooo the chance of pvp servers existing is actually fairly high! Fear of death and cash shop is what I fear the most!
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