Ouroboros11's 3.0.4 Psioniscist Compendium

[kendosoul]

in a few of your builds you put 3 points into the first version of an attack then 2 in the next version. this type of thing waste three points since it's only required to have 2 in the first to put 2 in the second. I understand putting 3 in at first for leveling but it's really wiser to find a way to not waste those points in endgame

[Ouroboros11]

Hi! Thanks for your comments. The reason I did that was because the other skills I could invest in aren't particularly useful for a will suppression build, and I needed a certain amount of points to get to the next tier. The best change to make would be to get rank 2 mental link, as it will be used in some situations, and either rank 2 twin or concentration depending on personal preference. I'll edit the build in the guide to reflect your suggestion.

[Savarage001]

I've just returned to Allods Online. I quit when they nerfed the hell out of my favorite class Psioniscist. I've been waiting for someone to post a guide for the new patch with builds which are reasonably tested and thought out like yours. Thanks for the cool build Ouroboros.

[niazay]

great guide Ouroboro, outmatched my guide too , my only mistake was i was in a rush for making a guide since people started bugging me on my thread and sending me private messages to make a guide for psis, and this didnt give me the chance of making my guide perfect like urs, my only argue on ur builds was to get pain shift to R3 instead of R2, the difference in the tooltip damage might not be big, but this simple difference appears in the crits of Pain shift, since painshift nearly crits 100% then i dont see why not getting it r3 .

Wow, I'm sorry. This is waaaay too much text for me to read.
I guess it could be useful for new players though, but as I said, didn't read it :d

so u didnt read it after all, proves u were just a flamer and a racist to the imps, this proves more ur Puknub, dont even try to hide ur identity

[Ouroboros11]

Thanks for your kind comments Niazay! I really like your guide too, and I felt like you explained things like stats and gear with more experience and knowledge than I could've. Thanks a lot!

[pacifidlog]

Wow Apollo, this was an amazinly detailed guide, kudos to you sir.
To the haters hating hatingly on the text, you must not be fans of chapter books. I found the stream of info appealing. Gl winning mate!
Lance

[mhavazelet]

Hey, i'm a new player to the game and only have a lvl 10 Psi at the moment. I'm really looking for a pure PvE build since i have very little interest in PvP (although i know i'll be forced into it in some zones) and play almost exclusively solo. I didn't see a pure PvE build listed in your guide for leveling but do you happen to have one? I saw this one in the other guide:

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=53960&sid=61aug209i9ahnnrbf3qa8hp9j0

It's the first build listed in the guide but it's dramatically different than any of yours. Is it good for what i want? Thanks for your help.

[paperinkbrush]

Really well thought out guide! I especially liked the organization, listing things in a way that makes sense rather than just the order they appear on the talent trees, like every other build of every other class I have seen.

I disagree with your assessment of the stat wisdom, though. I've found it much more important and I seem to get the best results when I kept it as close to my Int as possible, until the point I've balanced my stats and just start dumping extra stat points into Int again.

I also have two questions, the first is about Spectral Assassin. You said that the damage of SA increases with increasing rank, not just the duration. Have you tested this? It isn't written like that in the tooltip, but then there are always some tooltip errors.

The second question is about ecto, I think the tooltip is definitely wrong on ectoplasmic form. I dont think that either form OR body prevent stuns and knockdowns. I tested this briefly, but I was testing many other things at the same time, so I could be mistaken. Have you checked this? Also, you listed that they dont absorb astral damage, but I believe they do now.

Lastly, I noticed one typo under your WS explanation, you mention using twin under WS when I think you meant to say SA.

Your guide is really well thought-out, I'm going to start directing my apprentices here! The build I ended up making is pretty similar to the first build you listed, too. Thanks for all your hard work, and good luck in the contest!

[Ouroboros11]

Hey, i'm a new player to the game and only have a lvl 10 Psi at the moment. I'm really looking for a pure PvE build since i have very little interest in PvP (although i know i'll be forced into it in some zones) and play almost exclusively solo. I didn't see a pure PvE build listed in your guide for leveling but do you happen to have one? I saw this one in the other guide:

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=53960&sid=61aug209i9ahnnrbf3qa8hp9j0

It's the first build listed in the guide but it's dramatically different than any of yours. Is it good for what i want? Thanks for your help.

First of all Niazay and I have radically different playstyles. The first two builds in my builds section are identified by the concentration gainin basic spell and the type online they employ which is based on location synnergy in the ruby grids. I prefer not to make a token PvE build because there are many dfferent types of effective play styles for PvE (for example you would make either a melee, caster, caster searing pain, or me lee searing pain build if you were a warden, each build has the same goal of DPS output in varying sitautions). That being said, all you really need to level with the new psi is psychic shock, pain transfer and survival skills for leveling.survival skills means pull want rank 1 mental twin an cleansing with higher ranks of ecto form and mental pulse. If you do that you'll level up easily and never die even when fighting silver run mobs 2 levels before you. Choke will become your biggest damage dealer in PvE instances, while Wall of Blades is great for taking in multiple weaker mobs and general AoE DPS. So I'd say following the general advice of my #1 build will help you level (be sure to read the edited notes beneath it) but feel free to change things around based on the preferences you discover you have as you level. As for rubies while leveling I'd say first go for stat and critical hit chance rubies, then the Cruel Master rubies if you decide that you'd rather use Will Suppression than mental link (trust me you probably will )

As a general note the difference between general PvE and more specific PvP build variations is pretty minor. PvP builds just sacrifice things like choke for better quick burst damage skills and more survability and CC.

[Ouroboros11]

Really well thought out guide! I especially liked the organization, listing things in a way that makes sense rather than just the order they appear on the talent trees, like every other build of every other class I have seen.

I disagree with your assessment of the stat wisdom, though. I've found it much more important and I seem to get the best results when I kept it as close to my Int as possible, until the point I've balanced my stats and just start dumping extra stat points into Int again.

I also have two questions, the first is about Spectral Assassin. You said that the damage of SA increases with increasing rank, not just the duration. Have you tested this? It isn't written like that in the tooltip, but then there are always some tooltip errors.

The second question is about ecto, I think the tooltip is definitely wrong on ectoplasmic form. I dont think that either form OR body prevent stuns and knockdowns. I tested this briefly, but I was testing many other things at the same time, so I could be mistaken. Have you checked this? Also, you listed that they dont absorb astral damage, but I believe they do now.

Lastly, I noticed one typo under your WS explanation, you mention using twin under WS when I think you meant to say SA.

Your guide is really well thought-out, I'm going to start directing my apprentices here! The build I ended up making is pretty similar to the first build you listed, too. Thanks for all your hard work, and good luck in the contest!

Thanks for pointing these things out! I was in such a rush while writing this guide that I think I did confuse some minor details. And you're assessment about ecto seems correct, as I'll often put ecto up when fighting paladins and then subsequently get stunned, snared, knocked down and silenced . The SA description was an error now that I think about it. The damage is calculated from the target's strength and weapon stat and is only boosted by assassins mark rubies. Thanks a lot, I'll update it in a sec to clarify these nuances.