Summoner: A Guide to Create your own - By Sheyz and Feighn

[sarny_]

There are just so many things wrong with what you said, here's a few

How many ever people worked on this guide 2,3,4-------1000000 i dont care lol. Doesnt change the fact that you or one of your lackeys troll on NOT only mine but the posts of others too

Second, my only mistake was being a little vague , which i quickly corrected with an elaboration. You or should i say "all of you" recommended putting rubies on something near useless let alone a "must have" without giving any explanation to the contrary

No you did not ask me to follow your advice, similarly no one asked for your "so very helpful" comments either, if you must comment do it without being a jerk

Your actually PROUD of your trolling skills ?, now thats just plain sad. Couldnt find anything useful your actually good at ?

1) There is a reason why I wrote "trolling" besides "" instead of just trolling by itself. "Trolling" means that I say stuff directly, couldnt care less if it hurts feelings or not. Trolling means that the only thing I do is walk around and be like "you suck".

2) Last time I checked, people on the guides actually thanked me for me trolling. You mad? (oh and btw, this is trolling, not "trolling")

3) Well, since you are such an awesome summoner, I don't really need to explain why you should get blood bank, although, I will, because I'm such a nice person that I want to provide you every help I can to make you understand why your critiscism as pure trolling compared to my comment to your guide.

Bloos for a summoner is like shields for a mage, like perps for a healer, Combat Advantage for a warrior. It's that thing that appears on your screen, above your spell bar in the form of red bubbles, that are lighten up if you actually have blood ^^

Now, what is a shield for a mage, it's his defense. How do you regenerate your defense as a summoner? With blood. How do you get blood? From Vamp, Fever and Reanimator if you get blood injection (useless spell). How do you store blood? WITH A BLOOD BANK!

Now, what is a perp for a healer? It's heals. How do you heal on a summoner? With blood. How do you get blood? From Vamp, Fever and Reanimator if you get blood injection (useless spell). How do you store blood? WITH A BLOOD BANK!

Now, what is combat advantage for a warrior? It's the thing they use to unlock more powerful skills. Which one is one of the most powerful skills for a summoner? Howl of Death. What does How of Death use? Blood. How do you get blood? From Vamp, Fever and Reanimator if you get blood injection (useless spell). How do you store blood? WITH A BLOOD BANK!

Now tell me please, dear fellow summoner who probably never experienced end-game content, how are you going to be a good summoner if you are limiting yourself in 6 drops of blood? OH well, 6 drops of blood, no big deal... It's just either a howl of death, or a pom+2 DR.

Oh wait, you are gonna use DARK PACT if you need a heal.... Taking even more health out of you, since you are full of it right?

Please dude really, re-post here when you have half of our experience in summoners and when you actually have arguments to tell that what we wrote about that ruby is wrong. Until then, keep your mouth shut because nor me or Feighn have the time to get trolled by someone who thinks that knows everything but the only thing he does is trolling.

I used to be like you, until the day I realized that if I heard from experienced players I would be a better player. Guess it's your time to do the same

Good luck to your guide in the contest.

[leagueforever]

First off, get your facts right you ignorant little [I Have a Potty Mouth]. You said you started your summy 1 week after gipat. I was lvl capped nearly 6 months before gipat. Did every heroic and nearly every astral run pre and post gipat. You said you know that summies are going through a tough time ? as a post gipat summy you know nothing of how much things have really changed for us summies.

Ive done a lot more endgame content that you for a lot longer period of time. When you first started doing your summy all the advice you got from experienced players, i was giving to noobs like you.

Secondly, Doesnt matter if you say something directly, if what you say is useless then its still useless. And the comment you made was pointless, my mistake was little more than a typo

Third ive never found the need for the extra blood in any of my endgame runs, having extra blood slots could come in handy true but is by NO means necessary

And dude its I who used to be like YOU, when i first learned stuff from experienced players i got cocky and thought i was the bomb and others were wrong. I learned the value of giving every opinion the respect it deserves. Its YOUR time to do the same.

[aritech]

Third ive never found the need for the extra blood in any of my endgame runs, having extra blood slots could come in handy true but is by NO means necessary

He's right about this Shey, I don't run with rank 3 reservoir anymore, rank 2 is perfect for me.

[flushroyale]

16 bloodbank is vital in vamp build , no doubt on that.

In acid build, it would be nice to start combat with 15 blood(pre-used dark pact) to throw HoD at least 3 in 30 seconds (and with some lucky fever ticks). However bloodbank rubies are placed so far away in vamp grid , its impossible to get 3 of them, simply not enough rubies.

And also i would prefer this route to get call of grave in acid build http://allodsbase.com/ru/talents#-3hxlxyy11s928w5

Other than nice work , its well prepared

[mesolimbus]

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[scrape]

This guide is full of such great advice and all anyone can do is nitpick over rubies and bullsh1t. Grow up, y'all.

A Class Guide isn't supposed to be a rigid build that everyone must follow. It's supposed to be advice

These guys wrote up a great guide explaining class role, endgame role, general strategy, plus all the Talents and Rubies, and all you can come up with is "I stopped reading at your acid build FAIL"

You sound like a child.

[_pascal]

Very informative, thankyou

[mesolimbus]

You sound like a child.

I'm just giving her a taste of her own poison; this is the same way of which she "constructively criticizes" every single guide that comes out. Therefore, she should be able to handle such a criticism from me especially since I have made many good points.

However, I'd rather be the better person. You are right, this is childish. I shouldn't have lowered myself to that level. I'll remove my post.

[sarny_]

First off, get your facts right you ignorant little [I Have a Potty Mouth]. You said you started your summy 1 week after gipat. I was lvl capped nearly 6 months before gipat. Did every heroic and nearly every astral run pre and post gipat. You said you know that summies are going through a tough time ? as a post gipat summy you know nothing of how much things have really changed for us summies.

Ive done a lot more endgame content that you for a lot longer period of time. When you first started doing your summy all the advice you got from experienced players, i was giving to noobs like you.

Secondly, Doesnt matter if you say something directly, if what you say is useless then its still useless. And the comment you made was pointless, my mistake was little more than a typo

Third ive never found the need for the extra blood in any of my endgame runs, having extra blood slots could come in handy true but is by NO means necessary

And dude its I who used to be like YOU, when i first learned stuff from experienced players i got cocky and thought i was the bomb and others were wrong. I learned the value of giving every opinion the respect it deserves. Its YOUR time to do the same.

Hey Hey Hey. Dude, really. No one insulted you so I won't admit that you insult me either. It was a typo, that's why I made a big huge bold on that crap. You didnt like it, man, poor you. That's because of people like your that I'm not nice on the forums so yeah. Are you mad? Be careful with you health buddie ^^

Third ive never found the need for the extra blood in any of my endgame runs, having extra blood slots could come in handy true but is by NO means necessary

He's right about this Shey, I don't run with rank 3 reservoir anymore, rank 2 is perfect for me.

He completly denies (I don't know how to type this word) the use of Reservoir of Blood. R2 is a matter of your personal preference, and again, this is just advice. We said plenty of time that there is a lot of stuff that is a matter of personal preference. I ran R2 for a long time, I just like R3 more. If R2 works for you, awesome ^^. Completly skip it it's just not good.

16 bloodbank is vital in vamp build , no doubt on that.

In acid build, it would be nice to start combat with 15 blood(pre-used dark pact) to throw HoD at least 3 in 30 seconds (and with some lucky fever ticks). However bloodbank rubies are placed so far away in vamp grid , its impossible to get 3 of them, simply not enough rubies.

And also i would prefer this route to get call of grave in acid build http://allodsbase.com/ru/talents#-3hxlxyy11s928w5

Other than nice work , its well prepared

Rez is the kind of stuff that you get if you have rubies left. We didnt get it that way because you would be spending a lot more rubies, although, it's just guide lines. If you like to get stam rubies instead of reanimator, it's up to you ^^.

This guide is full of such great advice and all anyone can do is nitpick over rubies and bullsh1t. Grow up, y'all.

A Class Guide isn't supposed to be a rigid build that everyone must follow. It's supposed to be advice

These guys wrote up a great guide explaining class role, endgame role, general strategy, plus all the Talents and Rubies, and all you can come up with is "I stopped reading at your acid build FAIL"

You sound like a child.

Thank you Scrape. Also, thank you for you addings. I added them on the guide ^^.

Very informative, thankyou

Glad you liked it

[sarny_]

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A friendly advice to every one, don't play that PvP build it's gonna severely limit you to 1vs 1 and even at that you won't stand a chance against classes that purify DoTs.

you know, I read what you said before, just going to pretend I didnt since you removed your post. ANYWAYS, as I said before, you are a summoner, psis and healers can clean your dots. Poor you.
Same thing, poor mages that don't absorb our damage. Some classes are more difficult than others.

Ohh, and btw, it's r2 putrefy because that build is getting Decomposition and Decomposition over-writes putrefy. You can never get decomposition to you unless you get an extra talent point, so there is no point on spending 3 talent points in putrefy since Decomposition is stronget at R2. Putrefy is just there to unlock Decomposition, and that is explained but oh well... Guess you stopped reading too early ^^