ranged scout pvp build

[patapomme]

so i should really get parry rubies but lose the kd/slow reduction,smoke cloud(so usefull again mage or warrior(cant charge) and many other class),sprint that help you get away,even for a pvp build?if your on the ground all the time,slow,resistance wont help you that much.

seem like we loosing so much to get those parry rubies....

[alehart]

no keep parry rubies, thats probably the most beneficial defensive ruby we have, next to 17% armor

and no mushchi, we cant

^
That. Parry rubies = Best scout ruby PERIOD.

Problem with ranged PvP is that there are way too many "must have" rubies.
You need to gimp PvEness (i.e: drop fletching rubies, and some DPS ones) to get a decent PvE build)

PvP scout relies on not being killed by means of CC and passive defense; as ranged you have range, but you are high priority and you lack CC'ness, you the passive defense rubies are even more important.

[patapomme]

droping fletching?aouch that one massive rubies lost i find it also usefull in pvp,be able to get arrow back even when you flee away is so usefull.as for losing a dps rubies....like what?
-telsa/incendiary dmg increase?(one of the primary atk after double shot and the %increase is hudge).
-double shot dmg?lol no way
-steady/solid shot?also a primary skill.
-duration/dmg increase of branding?without it branding duration is horrible and the ?dammage increase is hight
-dmg of rapid fire?well lose 18% dmg of the second best skill is a lot.

i know the only one we could mabey drop is fletching but playing without that must sux bad lol.i will wait like 2 min between each mobs and in pvp vs lot of ppl we often go out of arrow as we are always in combat mode...i might try it but im not sure.

can you share your build?

p.s:currently that the 2 build i see.both have the max rubies(that i dont even have yet) i thin with WM etc
http://www.allodsbase.com/calc#a30xmf6p ... h4900g0000

or

http://www.allodsbase.com/calc#a30xmf6p ... h49c610000 (losing some stats rubies and fletching )

[alehart]

droping fletching?aouch that one massive rubies lost i find it also usefull in pvp,be able to get arrow back even when you flee away is so usefull.as for losing a dps rubies....like what?
-telsa/incendiary dmg increase?(one of the primary atk after double shot and the %increase is hudge).
-double shot dmg?lol no way
-steady/solid shot?also a primary skill.
-duration/dmg increase of branding?without it branding duration is horrible and the ?dammage increase is hight
-dmg of rapid fire?well lose 18% dmg of the second best skill is a lot.

i know the only one we could mabey drop is fletching but playing without that must sux bad lol.i will wait like 2 min between each mobs and in pvp vs lot of ppl we often go out of arrow as we are always in combat mode...i might try it but im not sure.

can you share your build?

p.s:currently that the 2 build i see.both have the max rubies(that i dont even have yet) i thin with WM etc
http://www.allodsbase.com/calc#a30xmf6p ... h4900g0000

or

http://www.allodsbase.com/calc#a30xmf6p ... h49c610000 (losing some stats rubies and fletching )

In WH atm, will check your builds after im done.

DPS rubies are awesome, i know, but DROP THEM... See, without them you do 80-90% of your dps... With them you do 0, cause you get 2-hit and while dead you cant attack.

PS: there are no mobs on PvP, so drop fletching and use your arrows wisely.

EDIT: The 2nd build is fine, if you REALLY want to fletch, lose 1 double shot -energy cost and add quick recharge. If you need more than +3 to all arrows every 2 min you are doing something wrong.
(i would lose R2 subtle fingers for R3 cat's swiftness, or failing that R3 uncanny accuracy). You are not a PvE char, you don't spam skills over 30 seconds, -4 energy to double shot does nothing for you.

[patapomme]

you think it worth it to go with that build?losing a lot without getting all the +stats rubies,losing fletching and 1 double shot energye cost reduction.if i want to pve with that build will i do fine?i want a good pvp build but still be able to be good in pve lol im wondering if i should just go without kd/slow reduction,smoke bomb and sprint....

[alehart]

When did i say to drop the +stat rubies?

YES, you *LOSE* PvE ability in a PvP build... You really need someone to explain you that?

You have limited rubies, some are for pvp, some are for pve, you can go either way or half [I Have a Potty Mouth] it.

By definition, a PvP (Player vs Player) is *WORSE* at PvE than a PvE build. I would recommend you try a more flexible class if you want to do both (though the only PvE you can't do "almost well as" is L4)

[patapomme]

yes i know a pvp build wont be as good in pve then a pve build but i want to be *ok* in both.

i tried without fletching and 1 subtles finger and...it sux to play without fletching lol.the thing is i have bad stats now and when i farm on mobs in KOE lvl 49-51 it take lot of time to kill them(well lvl 50-51) and i use so much arrow .so it take lot of time between each kill.if its wasnt of that it wouldnt be so bad...

for the stats rubies yes you didnt say to dont take them but...i still cant because i will lack of rubies.im at 48 rubies and even when il get 51,if i get all stats rubies i cant take everything.so i drop something else or...i dont take them.

with 51 rubies it would look like that http://www.allodsbase.com/calc#a30xmf6p ... h59c610000

miss fletching,quick recharge,1 +expertise rubies,1 +strength rubies,1 subtles finger

so i dont know how much rubies i can get at the end but i was aiming around 51.


might as well just go with sheak build that will be more smooth overall but il get more difficulty in pvp if i get hit.if i can get more rubies il try to reach kd/slow reduction rubies and if i pvp il stay far and pewpew/flee and try to bring other down before they hit me...

http://www.allodsbase.com/calc#a30xmf6p ... h4900g0000

[alehart]

Shaek just got spared from my melee rage due to having many party members.

Will get him next time!!!

2nd build looks decent, im testing that thing, only dropping patience, its kinda lackluster for pvp.

[shaeknbaek]

lucky me

[alehart]

lucky me

You pvping on range?
Or switched to a real man's build?