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Re: This is why Vindication rocks in tank spec.

Postby gonionknight » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:07 pm

Paladins are the UMP SMG of Allods.
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Re: This is why Vindication rocks in tank spec.

Postby cookiesrgood4u » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:22 am

artocys wrote:
cookiesrgood4u wrote:
eletee wrote:How about they just nerf warriors a tonne, and make pallies op again so rez comes here to cry rather then brag :lol:


Like he did before the pally revamp?


Says the one who stops playing a class the second it's no longer op.


I never had any intention of quitting my paladin. Started when warriors>pally hard and played it trough all patches. I just played my class to it's best capabillity. Then they nerfed it so hard that pvp is nothing but a mass frustration.

I'd like to see you play your warrior if they suddenly nerf it to the point of uselessness. I can easily think of a few ways to achieve that: remove all damage modifiers upon bleed/kd. Cut all tooltips by 1/2. Remove all passive defense.Remove all stun/kd effects. Make DoT effects tick like condemnation. Give it barriers and a gimped heal.
Oh wait, that's a paladin.

Also, I rolled bard for quite a few reasons. Being OP wasn't one of them.
I would either restore my warrior reinc or play a bard. If I disliekd bard gameplay I would restore my warrior and play that. I also knew my guild is full of warriors and would need bard mains. Since my main class was gonna be replaced anyway it might as well be me playing bard. I end up being an OP bard that gets nerfed next few patches.
Big deal.
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Re: This is why Vindication rocks in tank spec.

Postby rezardi » Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:25 am

Shocker: I could kill holy paladins easier when they were super OP(only if built into bash rubies though, with firecrackers and when jagged slice still increased damage on movement :? ). Now, a good holy paladin just perma kites me while hitting me pretty hard. Bonus if they have/had stone barriers.

Also ryan, let's not forget you bragging every day and on every occasion about how you were so beast, killing whole raids by yourself with that insta full heal x15 button of yours. Class obv. not OP! Of course, -some- skill(and runes) were involved, too.
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Re: This is why Vindication rocks in tank spec.

Postby lastowie » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:24 am

"Shocker: I could kill holy paladins easier when they were super OP(only if built into bash rubies though, with firecrackers and when jagged slice still increased damage on movement :? ). Now, a good holy paladin just perma kites me while hitting me pretty hard. Bonus if they have/had stone barriers."

they boosted ur jagged slice damage, ur problem is only 1 they fixed it ratio for ur expertise... previus land 100% dmg now it affect expertise. AND WAS BUGGED OP.


"yourself with that insta full heal x15 button of yours." ----> learn 2 use rage... and it wasnt OP as 2 full heal it require ALOT ALOT ALOT expertise. With current stats changes it wasnt be even possible as 1.2k str palys = crap heals. You need balance str/fin/expertise for full heals in this patch, and still boosted rage just eat all heals tottaly.
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Re: This is why Vindication rocks in tank spec.

Postby gonionknight » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:29 am

Of all the heals my Paladin has (all 4 of them), the one I use the most is the Bard reincarnation skill.

Paladin healing is a joke when we only have one castable healing spell.
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Re: This is why Vindication rocks in tank spec.

Postby eletee » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:41 am

gonionknight wrote:Of all the heals my Paladin has (all 4 of them), the one I use the most is the Bard reincarnation skill.

Paladin healing is a joke when we only have one castable healing spell.


How strong is that heal? I mean using blink attack to instantly get out of caltrops is nice and all but some extra survivability might be nice. Regardless though once I'm cc'd I'm pretty much going to die if they get a chain up, can't do anything if only my willpower modifies that.
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Re: This is why Vindication rocks in tank spec.

Postby gonionknight » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:56 am

60K normals, 120K crits per target in leveling.
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Re: This is why Vindication rocks in tank spec.

Postby eletee » Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:40 pm

gonionknight wrote:60K normals, 120K crits per target in leveling.


So effectively a fh with 4 or more targets running endurance gear? Seems like bards are everything atm, they sure are going to get whacked by the mighty nerf bat.
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Re: This is why Vindication rocks in tank spec.

Postby wakisaka » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:43 pm

I should really get to leveling that bard....


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Re: This is why Vindication rocks in tank spec.

Postby gonionknight » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:21 am

You know those Level 1 mobs in all the end-game zones?

Free healing.
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