Bards Are over powered! and mages are worthless now?

[zenith683]

Class nerfs in this game only serve to make the classes mundane...boring. Idk why everyone is so eager to nerf a class rather than asking for buffs for their own. Don't get me wrong some of the bards abilities do indeed need changing, but a mass nerf will only do what it has done to the rest of the classes-turn them into the carbon copy of every mmo class you've played for the past 10 years.

[rezardi]

Class nerfs in this game only serve to make the classes mundane...boring. Idk why everyone is so eager to nerf a class rather than asking for buffs for their own. Don't get me wrong some of the bards abilities do indeed need changing, but a mass nerf will only do what it has done to the rest of the classes-turn them into the carbon copy of every mmo class you've played for the past 10 years.

WTB counters to kiting classes/bards for warriors(Telepull reinc. spell doesn't count)

[citizenkane_]

Yesterday I dueled the two best geared / strongest bards on Nezeb (Rickxrolled and Weddingsinger). At least, I think they are. I got stomped. Repeatedly.

I'm not sure what you expected, trying to go head-on against two output bards that are designed to KILL people.

Don't be daft. I didn't duel them both at once

But ya, no heals and no CC in mass PvP = no strategy.

[habalopi]

strategy is to make as much flashy animations as possible and force the memory leak to crash them, then go in for the kill

[artocys]

If only their buff that gives 50% chance to dodge attacks while under 50% HP was actually 50% chance to dodge as the tooltip says rather than the 75% chance to dodge it actually grants.

[gonionknight]

If only their buff that gives 50% chance to dodge attacks while under 50% HP was actually 50% chance to dodge as the tooltip says rather than the 75% chance to dodge it actually grants.

It's equivalent to the old heroic XAES mobs that got a passive auto-miss, in addition to a high dodge rate from them being melee scouts. The description isn't lying, you do have a 50% chance to miss, then if you hit, they have a chance to dodge. In other words, the buff isn't lying, it's just OP.

[artocys]

If only their buff that gives 50% chance to dodge attacks while under 50% HP was actually 50% chance to dodge as the tooltip says rather than the 75% chance to dodge it actually grants.

It's equivalent to the old heroic XAES mobs that got a passive auto-miss, in addition to a high dodge rate from them being melee scouts. The description isn't lying, you do have a 50% chance to miss, then if you hit, they have a chance to dodge. In other words, the buff isn't lying, it's just OP.

Well against other players I miss about 5% of the time so I would assume I would miss like 55% of the time against bards rather than 75 to 80% of the times. There is something broken with the dodge calculation related to this op skill.

[pukknub]

Bards are op and they ruin pvp. Devs might as well just removed all CCs from the game instead of creating that piece of [I Have a Potty Mouth] of a class that doesn't require any skills.

If it makes you feel better, a Bard with skills outmatches two bards without skills

No. Requiem/Ballde != skills.
Stop that bs now.

[gonionknight]

Bards are op and they ruin pvp. Devs might as well just removed all CCs from the game instead of creating that piece of [I Have a Potty Mouth] of a class that doesn't require any skills.

If it makes you feel better, a Bard with skills outmatches two bards without skills

No. Requiem/Ballde != skills.
Stop that bs now.

Neither of those is involved in me locking a bard down for 30-40 seconds. Ballade stops incoming CCs, it does not remove already-active CCs. Furthermore, I rely on Requiem for the Willpower reduction at 1 stack.

The following combos basically turn a bard into a glorified puppet:

Dissonance/Racial -> 8-10 second Silence.
Haunting Refrain -> 10 second Fear.
Dissonance/Improvise -> 15-25 second Stun.

Bards that run Ballade are not immune to a constant flow of CC effects, especially this:

[pukknub]

Not like ballade stops working while they are stunned.